reason, we -- we've gone from when we were in high school thinking that when you get elected, you actually lead people. to now, believing that when you get elected, you just kind of have to watch public opinion and you become a dog chasing your tr tail into traffic. >> i guess, one of the things i found striking in all of this is the country has come to a point where a significant number of people are actually defending, publicly defending, what happened on january 6th. i mean, that was the thrust of trump's statement about george w. bush. that is the thrust of this event that is going to be at the capitol this saturday. it's now a defense -- pride almost in what took place. >> you're right. and this is why, you know, i have made the decision to be on the january 6th committee. i think i can say liz cheney has, as well. is because we realize without this nonpartisan investigation of what happened, you're going to have this -- this retelling of history to where it almost becomes an heroic event. i mean, the number of people i
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