to say acknowledge very clearly what we -- what we all know to be true which is that the election was legitimate and not stolen. there's no bait to take. he says it. he doesn't want to say it. just for the same reason that -- that mike doesn't want to have this conversation. but hillary clinton and terry mcauliffe and joe biden and russia because this conversation is why the american people do not trust our elections and our political process right now. >> that's right. this conversation is why. you're right. i agree with that. >> yes, you exclaiming it in the media when the people who are actually yelling it from the rooftops aren't hiding about it. we can name them. >> yeah. >> they are going out in public, and yelling stop believing the elections. distrust everything. those people are somehow just taking the bait. got it. >> well, we have to move on, friends. i will say this. it wasn't the media and it wasn't the left chanting hang mike pence. it wasn't those people who stormed the capitol at this point and it wasn't any of them