he visited the united states back in 2013, he visited a prison. he washed prisoners' feet. he went back to those franciscan traditions, the name that he claimed when he became pope, about service and about sacrifice. and i think those values go right through the values of joe biden's life and his public service. >> so phil, i know the president said that pope francis told him that he should continue receiving communion, that he is, quote, a good catholic. what more do we know about that? and what more do we know about whether the controversial issues such as abortion came up during the meeting? because as we know, the u.s. conference of catholic bishops has sought to rebuke the president for his stance on abortion rights. >> yeah. so the president said that abortion did not specifically come up. a senior administration official who spoke with the president after the meeting told me that