has consistently lied about the safety options that exist, about the fact that it's not doing everything it can to fight these problems, and that they're not willing to sacrifice slivers of profit for our safety. >> you've said the company would be strong fer zuckerberg stepped down as ceo. if, a, do you think that's at all likely? and if you were the ceo of facebook, what is the first change you would make? on day one, what would your agenda be? >> you know, when i originally came forward, i really don't like personalizing conflicts. i think the promise of facebook are about incentives and about organizational incentives. but when mark zuckerberg came out and said hey, i know we called out all these things that are endangering people's lives about the underinvolvement on the platform, we should find 10,000 new engineers to build video games. when that happened, like that was a real -- it made me think maybe more needs to be done. maybe someone who is willing to accept responsibility for the power that facebook has should be in control.