it's time for people to be living and to make the decisions they want. regarding vaccination. and to, enjoy that many people have natural immunity. >> a test for your grandmother is more valuable than weekly tests for third graders, what do you make of his comments? >> well the problem is, it's, it doesn't follow good public health thinking and it does not follow a, the appropriate virology or medicine that is going on. bottom line is, little children can get covid and yes, they are much more like toll have mild symptoms but they can then spread it to older individuals and if we blind ourselves to certain individuals in our population assuming they will have mild disease, we are going to have multiple consequences. first of all, some percentage of those individuals will get severely ill. number two, they will continue