and look, the committee is very much aware of this. you know, they've interviewed hundreds of people. but they have to wait for a lot of things. they have to wait to see, does this justice department, for example, pursue contempt against mark meadows? does the supreme court -- what does the supreme court say about privilege? the archival material they are seeking is in litigation. so they -- they also have a bunch of outside forces that they have to deal with. i think they're working as fast as they can, but i do think they're really aware of the clock. they want to get this done, which is why we see letters like this, because they are letting us know where they are in their investigation, and it think we can expect some hearings somewhere down the line. >> gloria, appreciate it. gloria borger, norm eisen as well. thank you. now, more breaking news on how far team trump went to make it appear they won the election. surreal lengths, as it happens. in any case, phony.