we would never build a nuclear plant now with the technologies which had these accidents. now the technologies can be fail safe in the sense that if there's an anomaly like an earthquake it will shut down automatically. >> can all these countries that would like to build nuclear power plants afford that technology? >> that's a technology that exists in a powerpoint. that technology has been canceled. >> that technology was ready to move toward commercialization in 1993. >> michael, i want to get to you. >> anderson if i could make a comment. you know what, i hear these conversations all the time about the next generation nuclear power plants and they're inherently safe. the reality is this is not a technological concept. the issue is that the people who operate them, those are the people that you're putting the safety in the hands of. and it is not a technological issue. >> you're saying the danger is the operators. >> exactly. certainly and no question about it, power plants today are safer than the very first power plants