now, this is called agrodolce? bitter. if you talk about italy, it is the most interesting part of italian cuisine. not just gastronomically but philosophically, because it is a philosophical thing. life is too good. i need a little bitterness to remind myself of the internal tragedy of our existence. >> you're right, the sweet and sour of the life. >> one final attempt before i go to extract something meaningful on what it means to be sicilian. >> what's wrong with these people in the north? >> people from the south are coming from these greek street culture, where the philosopher while in the north came through, you know, and -- >> ooh, that's the harshest, meanest thing anyone can say. >> and figured out the last