terrorist in yemen or somalia or afghanistan or someplace in a sensitive area. they have the cell phone, they're monitoring that individual cell phone. that individual makes a call to someone in louisville, kentucky, in your home state. what's wrong with the nsa then getting a court order from the fisa court, foreign intelligence surveillance court, and trying to find out what that phone conversation between somalia and yemen, that terrorist suspect there, and someone in louisville? >> i have no objection to having a warrant for a specific person to look at phone calls. and if we then get a warrant, we find out the person in louisville is connected to the person in yemen, then we get a warrant for all of their phone calls. if they called 100 people last month, we look at those 100 and ask the judge for another warrant. i don't care if it's ten hops out with a warrant. but for the president to say we're only going to abuse the fourth amendment twice and not get warrants by hopping twice, but three times, it's either proper or improper and there is