are rambling and kind of nonlinear in where they are. do you think as a supporter of him he is making a serious run for president or he's just doing what donald trump has in the past always done? >> the only thing i'd say is we don't endorse candidates, so i'm not a trump supporter. but absolutely, and i would point out that we had all kinds of people saying he's not going to run and now he's running, and then they said he's not going to get anywhere and now he's at the top of the polls. i absolutely -- i mean, i have gotten to know him a little bit. i absolutely think he's serious. he's been talking about this kind of thing for a number of years. he really does believe this. he's quite sincere in this and i would also add, this business of being an entertainer, this is a guy who built this entire global trump organization from scratch. i mean, this is a serious businessman. this is a serious -- he >> he inherited --