holding out hope for a miracle and i don't think they're going to give up on their hope until the official word and i think it will probably come in a couple days. >> david, when you're looking at this part, not only is it important to get the news from boeing investigators that they think this is part of a boeing 777, i'm sure you're also looking at from your vast experience as a crash investigator looking into what this debris can tell you, the tears, if there's burns or the way it has warn down over time. what do you see in the picture or what would you be looking for if you got your hands on this debris? >> the most significant thing you can see just from the photographs and the fact that the leading edge of this component or this assembly is not significantly damaged. what that tells you is that the front edge of the wing did not have an abrupt stop as it would have if it went in nose first and hit the water quickly and at a high rate of velocity. what would happen is this particular component would be shoved forward into that wing