between the public and the church. his responsibility is to go out into the crowd and embrace the public and really touch the people. >> literally touch the people. >> literally touch the people. we've seen that during his time in cuba and all of his travels, he's constantly going into the crowds, unsecure. and really throwing his own security teams off-balance. the secret service has to be prepared for that and has to have a plan in place for when the pope does make those, you know, unscheduled movements. >> i grew up in boston and pope john paul ii visited there on his first trip to the united states in 1979. it was huge. to this day there are still photos of his visit there. i wonder if you can compare this visit from pope francis to pope john paul ii. >> they have the same message about the poor, the marginalized, the responsibility of rich nations to their people and those who are forgotten. that's the gospel. that's the gospel of christ. both john paul ii and francis