malik, show no indication they were stockpiling an arsenal of weapons, ammunition or pipe bombs or that they were planning this horrific attack. listen here to the family's attorney. >> there's a lot of things that just don't make sense. no one seen syed with any -- with some of the things they found on the scene, they vaend seen him with them. >> joining us now is the executive director fof c. for c. thank you for joining us. you spoke with the brother-in-law just last night. we heard from their attorneys that they can't make sense of the facts as they're laid out. what did he tell you? how are they making sense of it, then? >> they're not. they're just -- they're completely shocked. they're completely shaken by what happened.