and make it into two jobs. but it costs more money to do that because you have the overhead of two employees. and are you going to pay the employees the same amount of money. there are practical considerations to what he's say. he's a futurist. these tech ceos like to think big, big ideas. it shows you there are these two worlds. the tech elites who really are see things in this idea-knowledge driven way. and then this growing group of people living paycheck to paycheck who are working with their hours, where that's where the bulk of the jobs are coming in. they're saying, wow, i'd like to be a programmer, but i'm not. >> i appreciate his ideas and leadership on his many issues. i think he may be living and playing by a different set of rules. >> i would like to work less than 40 hours a week. i don't think anybody here works 40 hours a week. >> three or four-day weekend? >> that would be france. we all know what happened to them. >> some tech companies are doing the four-day week. you're seeing this already.