wanted him out. so what biden did was commendable. he was pursuing our policy going after corruption in ukraine and seeking the removal of the prosecutor general who was not going after corruption. >> obviously i'm going to put it undiplomatically, what the president is saying is wrong, is completely counter to what you know and lived. >> that's correct. and let me give you a little bit of color on this. they've been quoting the prosecutor general who vice president biden helped remove shortly. and mayor giuliani was waving around this affidavit that shulkin had produced which he criticized vice president biden. but the odd thing is which undermines shulkin, he produces that affidavit in support of one of ukraine's most notorious oligarchs who's under indictment in the united states. >> i want to make sure everyone realizes this is not the ambassador saying this today.