mueller russia investigation and report into this? >> context, background. it shows you that president trump was on notice. he basically got warnia warning the mueller investigation. you can't do this. it is not okay to even welcome and encourage as mueller found, foreign election interference and let's remember, robert mueller testified on july 24th, and the next day, the 25th, trump jumps on the phone with zelensky and encourages him to do it again. i think the words were a president unbound. not responsible for the lessons already learned. >> does it really make the case stronger including the mueller charges when you consider the political risk that is clearly concerning some democrats? in doing that? >> it wouldn't be an internal debate. >> my view is that everything ellie said about the president's intent and the president's knowledge can be there even if you don't include charges