lawyers, even spouses are coming forward and saying we need to do something different. >> a lot of the credit is actually being given to their what should the consequences be beyond obviously stopping this practice do you think? >> i think one thing this can tell us is we need industry pend people in this particular space in concussions, neuro generative disorders to be truly at the table especially being black or brown and minority so they can advise the nfl and say, look. this policy doesn't make sense. let's step away from the algorithm, the metrics and numbers, and see if this makes sense for the majority of these players who happen to be black, the majority of retired players going through this bureaucracy, this myriad of paperwork and phone calls. they need to make that to have these claims so their chronic conditions are managed appropriately. there needs to be an independent group to come in and say let's