and we're going to have that debate and how did we misread the intelligence and not seeing this coming and what do we have to do better in the future. >> we're going to have that debate. but you have such a unique perspective on the the ground serving alongside afghan troops for two tours. so given that, and your experience, how surprised -- i know your clearly saying your surprised. but what should we know or what did you know about the afghan troops that people missed given the fact that they're just melting away at the mere threat of the taliban without the u.s. presence there. >> well, dana, first it is important to say that not all of them are melting away. there are elite special operation and commando operations that are fighting right now. but it is true overall that the rank and file is not holding in afghanistan and we're seeing large units simply dropping