have protection for these members of congress, that wouldn't be a genuine thing for me to assert. there was certainly -- there was certainly a pull-off of the kinds of missions we were trying to do to be able to accommodate that visit. >> just to be clear, congressman moulton and congressman meyer, they took seats that would have been for refugees leaving and took time away from the mission. >> they certainly took time away from what we had been planning to do that day, and i don't know on the aircraft -- they did fly out on a military aircraft. i honestly don't know what the seat capacity was on that aircraft. but they are out of the country now. barb. >> just one more question on withdrawal in the coming days. since the president has said,