victims victimized by jeffrey epstein, ghislaine maxwell, and others over the years. it's important to remember that prosecutors initially gave jeffrey epstein essentially a free pass over a decade ago down in florida. and really the only reason we were able to see justice here after all these years is because of intrepid, really effective local reporting down in florida and because the southern district of new york stepped up and pursued justice for ghislaine maxwell. i think victims are right to point out this is a partial step towards justice. one person has been convict preponderance of the evidence way more than one or two people involved in this. we'll see. the prosecutors have the evidence and the will do to go after those people. >> so powerful to hear the witnesses say they didn't think they would be believed. joey, maxwell's lawyers are saying they're planning to appeal, as is her family. any chance of that succeeding? >> amara, good to be with you