shoe designer and he was strong and tough but sensitive and creative and artistic. i think my father is a mask lynn man. he just taught me it's okay to focus on your family, be there for your family no matter what. >> do you ever catch yourself thinking what would a woman do in this situation? >> not what would a woman do, but how would a woman be perceived or covered? i'm very mindful of that. i'm very mindful of like the fact i'm sitting here with you and the fact that sometimes we get attention for doing things that others have done and maybe didn't get the same attention. >> there was a great line that seth meyers used when your wife was on. >> my husband, doug and i, the first second gentleman of the united states. >> i do want to focus -- i feel