quite a number of times. he was right across the street here in victoria. all sealand was was a net hanging in a marina that with a float around it. tilikum was the one we really loved to work with. he was very well behaved and he was always eager to please. >> when he was first introduced, everything just went fine and dandy. but to the previous head trainer used techniques that involved punishment, would team a trained orca up with tilikum who was untrained. he would send them both off to do the same behavior. if tilikum didn't do it, then both animals were punished. deprived of food to keep them hungry. this caused a lot of frustration with the larger animal, the established animal. and would in turn get frustrated with tilikum and would rake him with his teeth.