interest in obtaining any intelligence from this? >> no. that's not what i'm saying at all. i think they thought they could get whatever information they could get. my point is they were going about it in the wrong way in a way that was never designed to work in the first place and the people doing it, as the senate intelligence report has reported these two guys had no training in international interrogation, no expertise in allocate tarks counterterrorism or anything of the like. >> just before the report came out, george w. bush's second in command when all of this happened called it a bunch of hooey. vice president cheney took it a step further saying it is quote full of crap. hear more of what he had to say in an interview with fox news. >> khalid sheik mohammad the mastermind of 9/11, hit the pentagon, taken down the white