and his response was something along the lines of what are you doing around here. then she hears a thump and hears trayvon saying is get off, get off. if they believed that, then george zimmerman is the initial aggressor. if they disbelieve it, if they disregard her testimony because they don't think she's dressed appropriately or doesn't understand cursive, then the prosecution is in trouble. >> hold on. that was a shot across my bow. i'm going to respond to it. >> hold on. one thing that was very striking about o'mara's summation was putting aside rachel jeantel's demeanor. the 911 tapes, the times, that's where the four minutes comes in that trayvon and rachel jeantel are off the phone. it's four full minutes until the shot takes place. what goes on in that four minutes? why doesn't trayvon leave if he's not initiating the conflict? >> but in rebuttal, jeff, the prosecution made the point that it wasn't really four minutes. there was an overlap of two