i'm saying he picked these women, patrick. he picked these women. he refuses to call out white nationalism unless he says don't forget about the left, he says antifa must be on the list of terrorist organizations. he does not say that about neo-nazis. why? >> these women have picked themselves. they chose to hold a press conference today in washington. it gives president trump the material fortunately or unfortunately he needs -- i do not believe that. you may. i will tell you, i don't need to believe that because i don't think that's it. she say outrageous things no matter what color her skin is. >> the challenge is, it doesn't serve you to belief it because it doesn't feel right. the challenge that we have here is you have the opportunity -- just like hijacking in these folks, but i think the reality of it is very simple. you have the opportunity right now to do the right thing instead of choosing what's politically expedient to you. and i challenge you and your colleagues, watching this program, we're not your enemies, these folks are as american as you. >> what do you think that i view -- >> i'm talking about the same