of accountability on this. >> are you worried that you haven't seen the call, haven't seen the complaint? >> it's not just about the call. it's not just about the complaint. but we do know that we have seen in plain view the president of the united states confess to wrongdoing. he didn't look very guilty when he did it, but that doesn't change the fact that it was a confession. and right now we see strong evidence that the american president may have sold out u.s. national security interests to go after a political opponent. that's just the latest in a number of things. any one of which might be impeachable. the real question is what standard are we going to hold the presidency to? this isn't just about this president. this is about the american presidency. because if a line is not drawn now, then future presidents, even long after our lifetimes, will have a different and lower bar for what they think they can get away with. >> now, the opposite in reverse, right? if we learned from andrew johnson, the precedent you're not supposed to go out after a president with impeachment for political disagreement. >> that's right. >> and if you set this as the