hunter biden. so i understand the methodology of what he's doing and i'm puzzled by it because i would have thought by this point we would have broken into people like the texas congressman that you just had on the air -- >> he just said when you get into public service, you're not supposed to put your life on hold. that's absurd. that's exactly what you do with public life. who knows better than you with your company. when you go into public service, you got to stop making money on the outside. >> that's the abnormalcy and malignancy of what the president is doing. and it's a real shame. he could have dropped all this stuff and it would have been a lot better. we're here now. that's the malignancy of what he's doing. so for me, it's turning, okay? and i'm spending time on this and energy. i'm going to announce the pac in the beginning of november, we'll go up on the air with some ads and you'll be very happy -- not