>> confidently, confidently. if i were the investigator running this case, i would assume that the gods were smiling on me. bill taylor is the kind of witness that you are happy to go court with. >> okay. if we start looking at what this is going to mean -- i just want the make sure have i the order right. so jim, the idea of -- just so you know, this stuff doesn't just come out of my head at home. have i all the paper on my desk. we study all day to make it understand form you. it's hard on us. we have to study to make it relatable to you. jim, we're going to attack the source. that's not going to work here. this man's resume is too tough, and they begged him to do the job. so they have a problem there. but what harm was done, jim? ukraine got the money. they never gave us dirt on the dnc or bidens. they never really therefore interfered. they didn't make a public statement. they didn't even do the interview with cnn which is always a crime in and of itself, and our relationship is as good