but you're young and that becomes a co-efficient of experience. small town mayor, two term. doesn't have the experience. if this were a written test you would get an a. it's a practical. you haven't dealt with these pressures that can kill the average man and even in that little town you have a problem with african-americans. without this nothing. four democrats and they don't like you. >> that's not true. the black voters who know me best in the city of south bend are largely responsible for how i got re-elected with 80% of the vote because of the good work we were doing at home. >> and polls suggest they have issues with you. >> there's a lot of work we have to do to make sure we earn every vote but i reject the idea that i'm not going to be able to win black voters. we have to stop talking about the black vote like it's one person. it's a diverse constituency and a lot of americans who have felt not only abused by the