all right. let's bring in robert ray and lewis, journalism, law and politics wrapped up into one. mark wayne mullen is the hot talk back and forth about what the state of play is. but in terms of the merits of where the democrats want to get and resistance in republicans. >> i thought the democrats did a good job hammerering home through the witnesses that one of the main defenses, as it were doesn't hold water and that's that trump was somehow defending the national interests. because you have two civil servants saying this is not only in the u.s. national interest but it undermines our ability to establish rule of law in other countries. and the fact that republicans