applied they need to start seeking options to get to a third country to get safe until we can get them in the queue. the second thing i would suggest to the state department is leverage us. there are tens of thousands of veterans, a virtual army all working independently. i've been suggesting we kind of all merge and sam and i are going to talk later about merging our efforts and leverage us. i'll be happy to take 25 to 30 packets. i have a security clearance. i can communicate with afghans. i'm willing to do it and i know sam is and i know every single veteran out there is willing to do the same thing. >> let me pick up on the colonel's point, sam. i keep hearing about these packets. i hear it from an interpreter we're working with here on the state side. we're covering him about his efforts to get people out. i'm filling out the paperwork but i don't know where to put it in the state department. i got the packet in and they say they got it but i haven't heard anything. what are these packets and what do you think could work better than what is happening now? >> well, honestly i think there's going to be a lot of time afterwards to dissect