very close to 60 on your own, which is what you need to break the filibuster, for everything in reconciliation. and it's very hard to get the other side to come with you and both of these dynamics really grow out of the same current, which is that it's become almost impossible for either side to do the other way for president. and since joe biden won 25 states, democrats have 47 of their 50 seats. donald trump won 25 states. republicans have 47 of their 50 senate seats. and basically that means that each side is -- has a hard time getting a solid majority. but given that almost all of the senators from the other party are from states that voted against their presidential candidate, it's hard to get them to vote with them as well. you add all them up and a 60 vote requirement and it doesn't work well. >> especially when you have half the senate is put in office by, like, 18% of the population. so, they are playing small ball with their politics in a way we're not used to the senate