hear about it before? >> right. >> you know, it just seems like okay, you just figured this out now? i know you got your spreadsheet in front of you and you are supersmart and all of this but like, if you had a hard line, couldn't we have heard about that two or three months ago so that the democrats don't seem like they are being held hostage? >> right on. right on. president biden also told cnn that he is open to altering the filibuster to pass voting rights legislation. obviously, this is up to the senate and as of now, doesn't seem like manchin and sinema are on board with that. but that's a shot across the bow to republicans. >> well, i -- i -- i have some strong feelings about this, don. i think it's such an an ak nizm and doesn't have any practical value at this point. i mean, republicans are going to do what they do. they know how to use power and use it in a -- in a hardcore way and democrats need to learn that lesson. and i have -- in all my years -- 30-plus years of campaigning, i never heard one voter say i want my filibuster. they don't give a shit about the filibuster. and i think that biden -- what