that he did didn't help him, but i also agree with what lisa said that it was a counterfeit $20 bill which doesn't even constitute being arrested. and when they did put the cuffs on him they never told him why. even though they claim to, but that was after the fact. but they put cuffs on him before they even told him why therapy handcuffing him. so i mean a lot of his actions probably didn't help the situation, but in the end result the officers were in control, and they had him on the ground and that's when things changed. >> you guys are -- i mean, you know the evidence. i mean, you know -- you got into it. this wasn't just on a motion as most people in the country are looking at this through emotion. this is on the evidence. >> not even close. i think we all knew the evidence very well. we all had different pieces of evidence we all thought were more important than others.