which will be bad news for folks that haven't got vaccinated. the operationalization of vaccines is extraordinary establishment. perfect is not on the menu here, people. we're dealing with a global pandemic but there are real gains to be made and one thing the biden administration needs to get better at is telling their story. they're confronting a non-stop misinformation industrial complex that pushes one narrative all the time and it sticks in the minds of their supporters and so you've got to be able to come out with a consistent story. >> you mean you're talking about with a vaccine mandate or that thing? >> all the disinformation. the talking points of the day. those filter through. and i think the white house is starting to realize they need to start doing a better job telling their story. >> speaking of that. i heard you agreeing with him saying uh-huh but we talked about ronny jackson. what about ron desantis. he's an example to protect floridians with another lockdown. to be clear, president biden is