and so this is the moment of choice and the moment of decision. in the life of all democracies, there's moments of decision where the future is determined. i think amazingly we're in that moment this week and next week. >> so, steven, on the anniversary of january 6th, the january 6th attack, president biden said you can not only love your country when you win. can democracy even function if only one side is willing to play by the rules? look, i am afrd that we have passed the point of no return. >> i don't think we've passed the point of no return. american democracy has a number of things going for it as well we can talk about. but you're right. it's very hard to sustain democracy for very long when one political party is unwilling, as daniel said, to accept defeat. we're at a point right now where, you know, in a democracy, governments may do well. they may do mediocre. they may not do well.