and here in america especially as people of color we get that. but that is not always the case. not all jewish people present as white. like jonathan greenblatt said that on this very program last night. >> that's right. >> but the nazis said that jewish people were a race, the reason for the stars, they wanted to be able to identify them. they saw them as an inferior race. that's the lesson in it here. talk to me about that. you can understand why people can see where she's coming from with that part of it. but it was clumsy. >> no, that's true. we know the klan was founded against catholics, jews and then especially blacks. but it was actually all-inclusive in that sense. and it's also true that even during the holocaust, you know, it was against slavic folk too. i mentioned the poles and the russians were viewed as inferior. they had black germans there. they were viewed as inferior. but jews were targeted by the