school and we speak, every day, about this issue and other issues. and we have been try -- she has been trying. she wept to tony's today to ship seafood to me. so anyway, that's another story, for a longer conversation. but um, i got to tell you, i love speaking to you. i am so sorry, what happened to your son. and i just want you, if you can, betty, can you just give a message to folks out there, please, please? >> i may not, in what i did, i was doing it for my family and friends. but if it reaches other people, not those who are diehards who will never get the vaccine. but to those people, who are straddling the fence, then i hope this message make them fall over on the right side, which is to get the vaccine. >> can we put -- if we have, can we put betty's son's picture back up, please? his name is brandon. and he died -- how old was brandon? >> brandon was 46.