becomes almost routine to go to homicide scenes. scenes where sexual assaults have taken place. child abuse or what have you. that's not normal. it is not normal to be exposed to this, on an ongoing basis. and we, in our profession, we have do a much better job of taking care of the mental health of our police officers. do a good job, if you get shot, stabbed, hit by a car, or what have you. but it's the psychological wounds that we need to pay more attention to and have regular mental-health checkups for these officers. and understand and -- and observe -- i mean, recognize the early signs that a person is, perhaps, in mental distress. don't wait until it's too late because then you wind up with the kind of outcome we're talking about tonight. >> officer michael fanone, who testified before the -- the committee on january -- the select committee. last week. he worked with officer hashida, for years. and he released a statement about him saying, in part, that he was loved by everyone. there is no one in the law enforcement profession loved by everyone. most are not loved by some.