after all, you know, they carry a badge, a gun, and so forth. and they don't want to get caught up in whether or not they are going to be able to -- to hit the street, if they're going to be fit for duty. so, i mean, there is a lot of things that have to be taken into consideration. but the bottom line is, if they need help, they should seek it. but i think, the leadership of police departments have to be more proactive in just forcing the issue. not waiting for an individual to stand up and say, hey, i got a problem. have regular mental-health checkups for everyone, and that in includes the police chief because, believe me, police chiefs are under an awful lot of stress, as well. and it's just hard on everyone, especially if it goes untreated. >> look, this is probably -- the -- the end spell to injury category here. this is officer fanone during his testimony about those trying to downplay what happened on january 6th. here it is. >> i feel like i went to hell and back to protect them and the people in this room. but too many are now telling me