a very good point. he's doing what he thinks the job is, right? what he has to get accomplished, which is become the speaker of the house and make republicans the majority. but do you think that's the way to do it? do you think that they want to -- especially in light of a fourth officer, we're hearing who was part of the insurrection, committing suicide. do you think that's the right way to do it, what he's doing? >> first of all, news of that today was heartbreaking, and news of any of the deaths as a result of january 6th are heartbreaking and could have been avoided if we didn't have the insurrection in the first place. and, look, in my view, the best way to go about winning back the house, in my view, is to focus on the policies and get away from the personalities and the false statements of the personality of the previous president. the republican party's best move forward and best path forward is to get back to traditional policies of the party. bring back the suburban white voters that we lost due to the