he is trying to set the record straight says he was more than a low level hacker. listen to this. >> i was trained as a spy in the traditional sense of the word. i lived and worked under cover over seas. assigned a name that was not mine. but, i am a technical specialist. i am a technical expert. i don't work with people. i don't recruit agents. what i do is i put systems to work for the united states. >> interesting to hear him speak at length. he's has so long to think about the answers. >> he talks in present tense. >> so true. this interview taking place in russia. brian williams went there to speak to edward snowden. he's granted asylum in this country.