many people believe that is the actual real problem, that that could be used to extract plutonium, find another route to a potential weapon, and that's the thing apparently that worries the israelis, the west, the others. because that would be a point of no return. he said to me that that might be something they would be willing to put on the table because it's not started up yet. so i just think that's interesting. >> let's look for a second at why they're in doing this. their economy is in a shambles because of obama's sanctions. >> actually because of the sanction bill that was passed by senator menendez and kirk being a bipartisan effort against the white house wanting it. i think it's those sanctions that have been instrumental. >> obama has really put the screws on these guys more so than any other american president and it's working. this is not meant to give somebody credit or somebody not credit. the point i'm trying to make is for the first time since in 30 years we have iran back on its heels. >> but i'm really curious -- >> we've got to make the deal if they're going to make. >> it that is really interesting. honestly we've been through this now for 35 years, right? to me it seems particularly in light of the deal, let's say it