someone with more stage experience would have an easier time with. laura who played shader did a remarkable job. >> now, despite the fact that some say it looked like dinner theater compared to the original, this was a big hit for nbc and attracted 18.5 million viewers. even if the critics say the special fell flat and if you and i think, wow, that's not such a great thing they did there, at the end of the day, this was a win for them, i think. >> listen, 18.5 million viewers, absolutely, and listen, i think that just shows that people love the sound of music in whatever form it is. i mean, the music is the music, no matter what. listen, the plays existed from the late 50s. it's been on broadway. it's been done in dinner theater, community theater, it's