overall, everyone does see joseph wilcox as a hero and he lost his life trying to do that, ashley. >> stephanie elam live for us in las vegas. john avlon is a cnn political analyst, also author of "wing nuts," and he has written about this incident. also the editor in chief of "the daily beast." you have spent a long time today on the facebook pages of this two. what did you learn? >> these two are influenced by politics and the echo chamber debate you hear, where the federal government is a tyranny, fascism, which is why they put the swastikas and gadsden flag on the police officers. these folks were definitely motivated, however unhinged they were as well, by politics, by ideology, and that is the wages of this kind of divisive hatred movement we've seen in america. >> hatriot, not patriot.