it hear the white house response to this subpoena from the committee. they have asked this lawyer, who worked for the irs and now at the white house, to testify tomorrow. we will see whether the white house responds and whether they produce her. athena, thank you very much. how many times can he say the word lie without actually saying it. tom, this issue of the e-mails, whether they are gone or not, is it possible? >> possible? possible? yeah. listen to this, if you were to crack open your computer and look attard r hard drive, what you find something that looks like this. if you open that up, what you find is this. a stack of shiny spinning disks with arms over here that magnetically write information on them. when people talk about the hard drive, this is what they are talking about. this is what the irs says failed inside one of their kpusers and some in congress believe that hard drive may have shown there was an illegal conspiracy