nonviolence, and then after friday that's going to be a function of what comes out. they say only clarity will build consensus. as you can see, there's a lot of enthusiasm for a better way forward. >> all right, chris. thank you, and as chris points out, if there are no charges, you know in a sense, all bets are off, and what the reaction might be. in terms of the freddie gray case and those police officers six of them what will happen. now, mary cook an attorney for freddie gray's family is with me along with pastor dwayne simmons. his church is a block away from the cvs that went up in flames in yesterday's riots. it was your neighborhood pastor that was destroyed. this has got to be pretty heart wrenching for you. i know but sadly, also something that you expected. >> yes. it was extremely heart wrenching. and it is nothing short of what i anticipated, because whenever you leave a pot on the stove too