cautiously optimistic, i guess we'll take that as as good as it can be right now. i want to read one other thing for you, congress mid-caman bec this is very important. according to white house officials i spoke with, this was the whistle-blower, this is not the first time, in quotes, under this administration that a presidential transcript was placed under the codeword-level system solely for the purpose of protecting politically sensitive rather than national security sensitive information. that would mean that there are other times that transcripts were put there, other times, it would appear. are you trying to get those? do you have any idea how many? what they're involved with? are you going to get them? >> it would be nice to get them and i don't know if we'll get them, but i think the important thing is for us to put this in a broader context. this is not an isolated incident. people shouldn't look at the phone conversation itself as the alpha and omega of this affair because it started with the drawing and the sacking of the