to capitol hill to try and see with pelosi and senator schumer's top aides, whether or not they could figure some way to thread the needle. it's a level of urgency, these officials have always been involved in talks, but it's very acute at this moment given how aware everybody is of the dynamics. there is some sense if they can put something together, some kind of framework, get sign-off from people to unlock this and move forward -- it seems long odds at this point in time, but the effort is real, urgency is real, and it's clear that the white house understands what pelosi is doing and understands they need to play a very important, very integral role as she pushes forward tonight. >> phil, thank you very much. now let's go to democratic congressman john yarmouth, chair of the house budget committee. his committee has passed its initial version of the $3.5 trillion spending bill. chairman, i appreciate your time. moderate democratic congressman josh gottheimer was on cnn, you may not have seen what he had to