it's a moment of disease when a patient lives or dies. and i think we're certainly there, which i didn't think before january 6th, honestly. i think we came as close to losing the constitution -- and when we say democracy, america is not a democracy. america is a republic. we call it american democracy. we came as close that day as we had at ft. sumpter. >> i think when you think about the problem of the fight of our life right now in this generation has to be to secure voting rights and secure peaceful transition of power. that should not be a partisan issue. that the state legislatures are now being given a chance to overturn an election, that means every election can be contested. where will it be from the old days of george washington when you had a peaceful transition of power? i don't understand exactly why this country is not making voting rights the central issue of the time. it's not a partisan issue. one of the things that lyndon johnson said was the fundamental